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UM lowers the chance that you get a PoF proc on the Crystal because of the extra damage instances. This is also not reflected in Sims, since Simcraft doesnt use the conditional 2xAB>PC Opener (in case of no early PoF Proc). This might also cause some disparity between Sims and ingame Results.

The WA from BynoPyno seems like a decent workaround to the limitations. The golden boarder is very usefull. I added the Progress Bars for Multitarget for more information, might sometimes be usefull to know for which mobs to search.

Edit: I was phrasing it a bit confusing. PoF can trigger RRPM trinkets, but does not count as a direct spell (for example it does NOT trigger doom Nova) - Just wanted to clarify that. See here about the RPPM Proc Does it really trigger the trinket proc? Appears it does, yes. Log . 00:00:24.910 Troop...

felmouth isnt the haste fish, it's a damage proc fish Yeah I know (totes just re-read my post and it definitely makes it seem like I don't know what i'm talking about though lol), which is why I am a little confused as to why adding 125 haste over just the damage proc would make prophecy of fear pr...

Now that iam not using Felmouth_Frenzy anymore, i had very decent success with AB>AB>PC id say about 2/3 of my pulls i had PoF on the Boss and it allways procced on the 3rd - 5th cast (so no waste of PoF uptime). check my killrog logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1mQWAzRpaYKtZbgP#fight=30&t...

In that case i would suggest to not use felmouth frenzy if u use PC. It really screwed it up in alot of pulls, because PoF was allways proccing while i was putting down PC. And this should make Opener>AB>PC quite a solid choice. Those pulls would have been so much better if it just procced on the n...

@Valounette: Is it just 2P which you are using, or are their any other factors, like PoF (prophecy of fear) trinket?

In that case i would suggest to not use felmouth frenzy if u use PC. It really screwed it up in alot of pulls, because PoF was allways proccing while i was putting down PC. And this should make Opener>AB>PC quite a solid choice. Those pulls would have been so much better if it just procced on the ne...

Since i got my grab onto the trinket i experimented a bit with the opener: I tried 1) Precast>AB>Put PC. In 90% of the attempts this resulted in a Mark of Doom on the Boss while i put PC down. I actually dont even know how this happens, since my 2nd AB landed and there was quite some delay until th...

Since i got my grab onto the trinket i experimented a bit with the opener: I tried 1) Precast>AB>Put PC. In 90% of the attempts this resulted in a Mark of Doom on the Boss while i put PC down. I actually dont even know how this happens, since my 2nd AB landed and there was quite some delay until the...

So wait. The only valid reason to still play arcane is because of the set-bonus being much cooler than frosts? I mean, gearing for one spec is ahellava lot easier than two. The sims are not up-to-date (class trinket nerf to frost) and are done for heroic gear. The BIS list of both specs is quite si...

my current work around to have prophecy of fear work with multi target with sound is to trigger it via combatlog. However, there is no dynamic group if u do it that way.

Please, correct me if i did not understand the PC vs Doom Nova (DN) issue right: a) when you dps PC and the boss has DN mark on itself, the 130% AoE damage from PC does not touch DN mark on the boss = does not create any damage from DN by this AoE, that is where we see the main problem: losing DN p...

Be aware of switching if you have Prophecy of Fear Trinket. with the Trinket (heroic) Switching t17 4P mythic to T17 2p + t18 2p (normal) results in a loss of 1700 dps for me. Without the trinket, switching to 2P normal is a gain of 1700 dps this is obviously due to nice syngery between the trinket ...

This works very well in a dynamic group (which is automatically created if u reaply "multi target" at the trigger). This allows you to display each single instance of Mark of Doom. However, there is some issue if you want to use sound effects. They will play every time you hit a spell on mark of Doo...

Unlike gorens/darmacs - I have yet to see prophecy proc on the first cast. In all our attempts on archimonde it refused to proc til the 3rd or 4th cast. My general consensus was to either attempt to drop PC at 2 stacks, losing 2 seconds on that uptime in favor of the 30%, or just dumping missiles i...

Has anyone tried simming different openers with PoF and PC? Since it procs on the first cast we either lose ~half of the uptime on the trinket or delay PC. I didn't see anything built to handle this in the arcane APL, so guessing it just eats half the initial proc's uptime and drops PC immediately ...

Iam also commenting on the prenerf simulations: Most mages probably dont respec and go with fire/arcane until they got their hands on 4P and Trinket. Current logs are reflecting the situation, that frost only becomes competetive outside of dual cleave once they got the Gear. While fire and arcane ar...

A fellow mage brought in the question: Does the fish trigger mark of doom and if so, is this already in the comparison?

I tried something like this # Conditions for initiating Prismatic Crystal actions.init_crystal=call_action_list,name=conserve,if=buff.temporal_power.stack<1 actions.init_crystal+=/prismatic_crystal And it doesnt change alot. This should only cast PC if Temporal Power is atleast 1. It didnt change al...