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I kept trying new specs as we progged through normal and heroic. Also considered switching to fire on some bosses. Thought I'd put together some info in case others were also fairly unsure how to get the best dps out of your mage in nighthold. Currently for Heroic. Going off best logs. All subject t...

3 is the breakpoint for AE to become higher dps

AE is 2% mana, 75% sp * 1.10 from traits, and instant cast (GCD 1.5) = 55 sp per sec
AB is 3% mana, 192.4% sp * 1.06 from traits, and 2.25 cast time = 90.6 sp per sec

Math. APLs agree.

So your maths is saying that we should AE at 2 targets?

I'll do some playing around with it at the dumbies, but from what I remember of using MI (last time they were good, a while ago) they take a while to cast regardless. Because of their first cast and that casts travel time, they were always used pre-pull to save a gcd. Although they would just stand ...

Is NT and Erosion similar dps for aoe? On a lot of the Nighthold fights they switch from single target, to add phases, fairly often. I'm having trouble with some choices. Like on Scorpion Bro and Tich, it switches from Single target to 4+ adds. I've been using Erosion but just switching from Arcane ...

So at 3 targets we Arcane Explosion instead of Arcane Blast? If there are any adds, we swap from Charged Up to Resonance? And at 4+ targets we swap from Overpowered to Arcane Orb? I'm struggling to keep up with the fire mages on our NH normal and heroic clear this week. A lot of the fights have sing...

The 4 target priority add sims seems to be doing less damage than the single target one. Should we just do ST rotation then @frosted? Also what rotations would you be doing with these? 3 targets we Arcane Explosion instead of Arcane Blast? If there are any adds, we swap from Charged Up to Resonance?...

You were quite right sorry, I just saw the main post and commented. I've read up on the replies now. Having 2-3 more stacks of PI would certainly make the meteor hit harder, as I can see you've put that in your napkin math. But both of our rotations would guarantee the fireball crit. And in my optio...

Nothing fancy to add. But I wanted to thank you guys for all the sims you have done to work out the best rotation. I'm just making the move to arcane now (no fire bracers) so I can kick ass on single target. Practicing my rotation felt clunky as hell. Now I know I can hold my cooldowns together, it ...

The stat weights for a 903 fire mage in NH have already been posted.
If you're too lazy to learn how to sim, just pick items with those stats.

Looking at Single Target. Assuming going Conf_MI_FO_UM_Met as it seems the best if you can't do sim-perfect cinders (and god I hate cinderstorm). Also conf/pyro seems much the same again, so just going the easier one (conf). I 'ASSUME' (looking for advice) the correct rotation would be: Prepot / Mir...

Hey folks. I tried searching the thread and don't see any answers, so here's my question: Do you think we should use Alextrasza's Fury with Darckli's Dragonfire Diadem? I tried it on mythic Cenarius last night and it still seemed significantly/noticeably worse than Flame On, but just wanted to see ...

Generic rotation question (I'll sim for my exact stat weights and bis trinkets, etc) Looking at Single Target. Assuming going Conf_MI_FO_UM_Met as it seems the best if you can't do sim-perfect cinders (and god I hate cinderstorm). Also conf/pyro seems much the same again, so just going the easier on...