7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'

[Lavok]

Based on the latest blue post about upcoming fixes to underperforming specs, these conclusions may still be up for debate

[Grakken]

Big thumbs up for this post, thanks a lot! Will be interesting to see how we compete with the rest of the pack

[Zulandia]

Based on the latest blue post about upcoming fixes to underperforming specs, these conclusions may still be up for debate

Thread will be updated as needed

[Ultima]

Zulandia thank you for the great post!

When I look through the profiles you provided I am seeing the arcane one using the new legendary shoulders in all of them, even the one using the 2 legendary rings making the sim show 3 legendary being used. Is this what your screenshots were using or am I missing something? I assume that shouldn't be in the profile for the comparisons.

[Zulandia]

Zulandia thank you for the great post!

When I look through the profiles you provided I am seeing the arcane one using the new legendary shoulders in all of them, even the one using the 2 legendary rings making the sim show 3 legendary being used. Is this what your screenshots were using or am I missing something? I assume that shouldn't be in the profile for the comparisons.

It should not someone just sent me a bad t20M profile (since arc was not default yet) and I obviously only looked to remove two leggos when I made a no leggo profile. I've got the fixed results locally I just need to colour and post. Should be soon as I get home today

[CaliFireMage]

anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.

[nickseng]

anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.

They did. It was ~3% dps loss, give or take.

[szikimaci]

This is pure quality post. Thank you very much for your work!

[Zulandia]

anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.

The second post is updated Was about a 3% hit to total dps using 4P

[iinverse]

Any info about ToS trinkets for TV spec?

[Makz]

Apppreciate the summary, can we also have dates and maybe a note on the sims results in order to know if they are incl. recent changes?

[dnzuniga]

Amazing work! Thank you a lot for this information. Btw, Have you consider the next 3% buff to fire and arcane?

[Zulandia]

Amazing work! Thank you a lot for this information. Btw, Have you consider the next 3% buff to fire and arcane?

It adds about 3% to each Jokes aside there are no plans to manually hotfix SimC; once the hotfixes are live in-game they should be picked up by SimC and I will rerun at that point (though they are fairly easy to estimate).

Apppreciate the summary, can we also have dates and maybe a note on the sims results in order to know if they are incl. recent changes?

I'll date them going forward from the run on Tuesday

[TurkeyOne]

So I opened the dropbox link at the bottom that had all of the profiles for these sims etc within it and noticed that the TV profile (without legs) is using trained soldier? I also gain 1-2k dps depending on the sim length with 450s being the 1k difference when swapping the legendary TV profile to mark of the claw instead of hidden satyr using yesterday's nightly. Not that its a big difference or anything either way though

[Oranarcin]

Where does the T19 2 set nerf leave running 2 T19 + 4 T20?

I see the new frost legendary is highly valued, will that be worth sacrificing the tier spot?

Last week my m+ chest gave me 905 CoS shoulders, would I be better off completing that set over T19 2 set?

I'll be running sims later when I can. wondering what the community thinks as well.

[CaliFireMage]

Great work on this! I know all the current info in posts 1 and 2 is now out of date, was curious if original data cruncher was going to update it (I think Zulandia mentioned putting a edit date so we know what is current and what is obsolete)? Thanks.

[Katsumi]

Does the latest change to GS Frost affect the sim results shown in the first post of this thread significantly?

Spoiler:

#160 - 2017/06/27 03:02:00 AM
One other change that is currently in testing:

Frost Mage:
Glacial Spike: the stored Icicle damage component no longer benefits from %-damage buffs on the caster.
Glacial Spike damage increased by 50%.

This is to prevent Glacial Spike from "double-dipping" %-damage buffs. That is, since the Icicles have already been buffed by things like Versatility or Incanter's Flow, that portion of Glacial Spike's damage should not benefit again. This matches the behavior of regular Icicles, which do not benefit from those types of buffs.

This has been a live issue through the expansion, and we know it's slightly last-minute for a fix now, but we grew concerned about Glacial Spike's interaction with some very large encounter-based damage buffs in the new content. Since fixing the double-dip behavior is the correct long-term solution, it was best to do it now, and compensate Glacial's Spike's own damage to account for the loss of Icicle damage. The goal is not to meaningfully nerf Frost in any normal situation (if fact, Glacial Spike should get somewhat stronger in any setup that's not heavily built around it). We welcome any rigorous feedback on whether the above number correctly accomplishes that goal.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

[sawbossnl]

This is with or without 4set t20?