AMR Simulator Stuff
Posted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:29 am
Ask Mr Robot released a beta version of their own simulation software today, so I took some time to check it out. You can find their announcement at http://blog.askmrrobot.com/2016/05/wiki ... web-based/" target="_blank .I found a number of issues with their Mage modelling, mostly with mechanics that are more subtle and less well understood by non mages. I told Zoopercat I'd list my findings, so I'm making this thread. If anyone else is playing with the simulator, feel free to post issues to this thread.
Unfortunately I didn't have too much time to look at all the specs. I mostly focused on Arcane logs, and spent a little bit of time examining Ignite in Fire logs. All in all, it looks like an ambitious project that could bring some good things. It will quite a bit of work before issues are ironed out and we can be confident in the accuracy of its output.
Arcane
- Doom Nova exploding from Prismatic Crystal is failing to hit Prismatic Crystal itself.
- Unstable Magic is triggering Doom Nova when it shouldn't.
- Arcane Missiles is applying Arcane Charges on cast begin, when it should be end of channel instead. This bug causes AM to benefit from an extra Arcane Charges.
- Temporal Power (4T18) is lasting for 20 seconds, when it should last for pet duration. Each buff should be tracked independently, instead of a single stackable buff. As a result, Temporal Power in AMR is being refreshed to an absurd number of stacks before finding a 20 second window to fade off:
- Temporal Power stacking should be multiplicative, not additive.
- Arcane Blast GCD with ToSW is not being reduced below 1.0 seconds. The Arcane Blast GCD according to the wiki is also wrong. In practice, there is a (1.5 * 0.8) = 1.2 second base-before-haste GCD cap before ToSW is applied, which is due to the Arcane Blast perk. Further haste cannot reduce GCD below 1.2 * (1 - ToSW).
See http://www.altered-time.com/forum/viewt ... 727#p17727" target="_blank for details.
- Presence of Mind is not applying to an Arcane Blast casted immediately after it.
- Arcane Missiles seems to be missing travel time.
- Temporal Hero attacks such as Jaina's Frostbolt are missing travel time.
- Nether Tempest has both a DOT and an AOE component. Both hit the main target. The AOE component is failing to hit the main target.
- Arcane Orb is not being used when talented (?).
- 4T17 (Arcane Instability) proc rate does not benefit from Haste, unlike AMR's wiki suggests.
- Mirror Images are whitelisted to proc AM. This is incorrect - it does not proc AM. On the other hand, all other offensive spells such as Nether Tempest, Arcane Orb, Supernova, Frost Nova, and Cone of Cold should be whitelisted.
- Evocation is not benefiting from Nether Attunement, and giving less mana than it should.
Fire
- IB's Ignite spreading mechanism is triggered, before applying its own Ignite damage to the main target. In other words, if you spread ignite from A to B, they should not have the same Ignite sizes after you cast.
Unfortunately I didn't have too much time to look at all the specs. I mostly focused on Arcane logs, and spent a little bit of time examining Ignite in Fire logs. All in all, it looks like an ambitious project that could bring some good things. It will quite a bit of work before issues are ironed out and we can be confident in the accuracy of its output.
Arcane
- Doom Nova exploding from Prismatic Crystal is failing to hit Prismatic Crystal itself.
- Unstable Magic is triggering Doom Nova when it shouldn't.
- Arcane Missiles is applying Arcane Charges on cast begin, when it should be end of channel instead. This bug causes AM to benefit from an extra Arcane Charges.
- Temporal Power (4T18) is lasting for 20 seconds, when it should last for pet duration. Each buff should be tracked independently, instead of a single stackable buff. As a result, Temporal Power in AMR is being refreshed to an absurd number of stacks before finding a 20 second window to fade off:
- Temporal Power stacking should be multiplicative, not additive.
- Arcane Blast GCD with ToSW is not being reduced below 1.0 seconds. The Arcane Blast GCD according to the wiki is also wrong. In practice, there is a (1.5 * 0.8) = 1.2 second base-before-haste GCD cap before ToSW is applied, which is due to the Arcane Blast perk. Further haste cannot reduce GCD below 1.2 * (1 - ToSW).
See http://www.altered-time.com/forum/viewt ... 727#p17727" target="_blank for details.
- Presence of Mind is not applying to an Arcane Blast casted immediately after it.
- Arcane Missiles seems to be missing travel time.
- Temporal Hero attacks such as Jaina's Frostbolt are missing travel time.
- Nether Tempest has both a DOT and an AOE component. Both hit the main target. The AOE component is failing to hit the main target.
- Arcane Orb is not being used when talented (?).
- 4T17 (Arcane Instability) proc rate does not benefit from Haste, unlike AMR's wiki suggests.
- Mirror Images are whitelisted to proc AM. This is incorrect - it does not proc AM. On the other hand, all other offensive spells such as Nether Tempest, Arcane Orb, Supernova, Frost Nova, and Cone of Cold should be whitelisted.
- Evocation is not benefiting from Nether Attunement, and giving less mana than it should.
Fire
- IB's Ignite spreading mechanism is triggered, before applying its own Ignite damage to the main target. In other words, if you spread ignite from A to B, they should not have the same Ignite sizes after you cast.
That was actually really challenging for our developer (yellowfive), but fun. He says there are other websites who have done it, but they tend to be full code editors, rather than a bunch of single text inputs that need the same functionality. Javascript didn't make it easy, but you can beat it if you try hard enough (quoting yellowfive).