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Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 2:38 pm
by Lavok
Based on the latest blue post about upcoming fixes to underperforming specs, these conclusions may still be up for debate
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:59 pm
by Grakken
Big thumbs up for this post, thanks a lot! Will be interesting to see how we compete with the rest of the pack
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:41 am
by Zulandia
Based on the latest blue post about upcoming fixes to underperforming specs, these conclusions may still be up for debate
Thread will be updated as needed
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:00 pm
by Ultima
Zulandia thank you for the great post!
When I look through the profiles you provided I am seeing the arcane one using the new legendary shoulders in all of them, even the one using the 2 legendary rings making the sim show 3 legendary being used. Is this what your screenshots were using or am I missing something? I assume that shouldn't be in the profile for the comparisons.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:28 pm
by Zulandia
Zulandia thank you for the great post!
When I look through the profiles you provided I am seeing the arcane one using the new legendary shoulders in all of them, even the one using the 2 legendary rings making the sim show 3 legendary being used. Is this what your screenshots were using or am I missing something? I assume that shouldn't be in the profile for the comparisons.
It should not someone just sent me a bad t20M profile (since arc was not default yet) and I obviously only looked to remove two leggos when I made a no leggo profile. I've got the fixed results locally I just need to colour and post. Should be soon as I get home today
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:04 pm
by CaliFireMage
anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 8:20 am
by nickseng
anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.
They did. It was ~3% dps loss, give or take.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:32 am
by szikimaci
This is pure quality post. Thank you very much for your work!
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:30 pm
by Zulandia
anyone done a new sim with the new nerf to the Frost tier set? Im curious how big of a hit it is.
The second post is updated
Was about a 3% hit to total dps using 4P
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:10 am
by iinverse
Any info about ToS trinkets for TV spec?
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 9:43 am
by Makz
Apppreciate the summary, can we also have dates and maybe a note on the sims results in order to know if they are incl. recent changes?
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:10 pm
by dnzuniga
Amazing work! Thank you a lot for this information. Btw, Have you consider the next 3% buff to fire and arcane?
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:10 pm
by Zulandia
Amazing work! Thank you a lot for this information. Btw, Have you consider the next 3% buff to fire and arcane?
It adds about 3% to each
Jokes aside there are no plans to manually hotfix SimC; once the hotfixes are live in-game they should be picked up by SimC and I will rerun at that point (though they are fairly easy to estimate).
Apppreciate the summary, can we also have dates and maybe a note on the sims results in order to know if they are incl. recent changes?
I'll date them going forward from the run on Tuesday
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 3:08 am
by TurkeyOne
So I opened the dropbox link at the bottom that had all of the profiles for these sims etc within it and noticed that the TV profile (without legs) is using trained soldier? I also gain 1-2k dps depending on the sim length with 450s being the 1k difference when swapping the legendary TV profile to mark of the claw instead of hidden satyr using yesterday's nightly. Not that its a big difference or anything either way though
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:37 pm
by Oranarcin
Where does the T19 2 set nerf leave running 2 T19 + 4 T20?
I see the new frost legendary is highly valued, will that be worth sacrificing the tier spot?
Last week my m+ chest gave me 905 CoS shoulders, would I be better off completing that set over T19 2 set?
I'll be running sims later when I can. wondering what the community thinks as well.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:39 pm
by CaliFireMage
Great work on this! I know all the current info in posts 1 and 2 is now out of date, was curious if original data cruncher was going to update it (I think Zulandia mentioned putting a edit date so we know what is current and what is obsolete)? Thanks.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 4:47 pm
by Katsumi
Does the latest change to GS Frost affect the sim results shown in the first post of this thread significantly?
Any insights would be greatly appreciated.
Re: 7.2.5 PTR 'Round-up'
Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:25 am
by sawbossnl
This is with or without 4set t20?