Arcane trinket comparison [Updated 6.1]

[Chev]

I wouldn't swap just yet unless you want to. You may even be able to make it using the Alchemy building in your garrison. If you are dead set about swapping. Start stockpiling the mats you would need to power level Alchemy and then when you have more information, you can then either make the change or sell back the mats, perhaps to people who will pay more because they are looking to get them in a hurry.

[DocileCraig]

I wouldn't swap just yet unless you want to. You may even be able to make it using the Alchemy building in your garrison. If you are dead set about swapping. Start stockpiling the mats you would need to power level Alchemy and then when you have more information, you can then either make the change or sell back the mats, perhaps to people who will pay more because they are looking to get them in a hurry.

I think im going to just wait untill the numbers come out then decide weather it's worth it or not from there. as is they could remove the trinket all together realizing that they have no mastery trinkets, and that this puts some class/spec combo's into a forced profesion situation. They did say they were trying to get away from that in the past if I recall.

[Wilderness]

I wouldn't swap just yet unless you want to. You may even be able to make it using the Alchemy building in your garrison. If you are dead set about swapping. Start stockpiling the mats you would need to power level Alchemy and then when you have more information, you can then either make the change or sell back the mats, perhaps to people who will pay more because they are looking to get them in a hurry.

Its PTR, so things are definitely subject to change, but as of now it says "Requires Alchemy" so even if you could make it with the building, you'd have to be an Alchemist to equip it.

I'm holding out to see more information about where it will shake out in the trinket rankings. I considered switching to Alchemy for the 2-hr flasks, and if its good enough this would push me to do it, but it would probably have to be pretty high up on the list for me to drop Tailoring (not getting rid of Eng - too much useful/fun stuff).

[DocileCraig]

Trinket was changed to versatility, don't change for it.
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[Faenya]

it was changed, so now it's not as blatantly no brainer overpowered as it was before for a spec like arcane, but even with it being versatility I'd wager it's better than a lot of similarly valued trinkets, not to mention you can get it straight away for progression. The proc on the trinket is pretty ridiculous, so even while it's vers and not mastery I'd wager numbers wise it's competitive and maybe a bit ahead. I haven't read or run anything about the numbers though, if anyone has I'd be interested to hear about it

[Transcendent]

it was changed, so now it's not as blatantly no brainer overpowered as it was before for a spec like arcane, but even with it being versatility I'd wager it's better than a lot of similarly valued trinkets, not to mention you can get it straight away for progression. The proc on the trinket is pretty ridiculous, so even while it's vers and not mastery I'd wager numbers wise it's competitive and maybe a bit ahead. I haven't read or run anything about the numbers though, if anyone has I'd be interested to hear about it

With my scale factors: Int=6.31 > SP=5.61 > Mastery=4.18 > Haste=3.21 > Mult=3.18 > Crit=3.00 > Vers=2.83 (these are from a 4-minute Patchwerk simulation), my napkin math tells me it is on-par with HC-Talisman and better than HC-Repository. It doesn't match up to the Mythic trinkets nearly as much anymore but it is still an excellent trinket going into Heroic and Mythic, especially if you know you're not going to get a trinket any time soon (barring lucky rolls of course).

Edit: Back from class, decided to run it against the Mythic Highmaul and Heroic Blackrock trinkets as well (I /assume/ Crucible will always be better than the other two regardless, haven't had time to average out the multistrike yet..). My results are HC-Crucible > HC-Talisman = Stone of Fire = M-Runestone > HC-Repository > M-Shards > Sandman's Pouch (4/4). Hopefully this is helpful to someone since SimC doesn't have the Alchemy trinket yet.

[Chev]

I have updated the OP to include the 6.1 trinkets.

[Rythlock]

Thanks your work Chev! I have mythic shards trinket from HighMaul, whats better with it as arcane? DMFTrinketStage4 or AlchemyStage4? Cannot find the alchemy combo, tyvm!

[Chev]

Both combinations are in the 3rd set of combinations. M-Shards with Alch = 47th and DMF with M-SHards = 52nd with 120 DPS difference so it doesn't really matter which one you take.

[Rythlock]

Tyvm mister!

[Aubadine]

What about the Alchemy trinket level 4 ?

I am surprised when i checked on Mr robot .. It gives a nice rate for the stone of fire ?

I dont know if is it usefull or not to craft it

No mastery anymore and only a bonus of 15 s for the intel

the HC shard or Runestones are still bettter no ?

[Chev]

The Alch trinket is ranked 11th when combined with Mythic Tailsman.

[Chev]

Mod: I have just moved the last two posts to the Q&A section as they were asking for help choosing a trinket. Can we keep this post to the discussion on the rankings of trinkets and questions asking for help in the Q&A section. Cheers.