[7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

[Imaskar]

Frees in what sense? You chain them during combustion because your pyros 100% crit, building big ignite. You can't do the same outside. But you certainly can HC pyro outside, just hoping for crit.

[illwil]

Frees in what sense? You chain them during combustion because your pyros 100% crit, building big ignite. You can't do the same outside. But you certainly can HC pyro outside, just hoping for crit.

4 seconds for essentially 4 pyros that will crit vs however many pyros you can fit in that same time frame depending on PF and FB charges. If you go with the hardcast you are left with more charges outside of combustion to use.

you get more pyro value so to speak casting it within combustion vs instant casts.

[Lahrast]

Frees in what sense? You chain them during combustion because your pyros 100% crit, building big ignite. You can't do the same outside. But you certainly can HC pyro outside, just hoping for crit.

4 seconds for essentially 4 pyros that will crit vs however many pyros you can fit in that same time frame depending on PF and FB charges. If you go with the hardcast you are left with more charges outside of combustion to use.

you get more pyro value so to speak casting it within combustion vs instant casts.

actually it's 5 pyro's worth if you start casting with a heating up proc that you turn into pyroblast! with a fireblast close to finishing the hc-pyro for maximum ignite (~5,5m hitalltogether, jum)

[Rugrud]

If it's worth it to hc pyro during combu, is it worth it to delay combu a bit to start it while HCing a combu ,?

[Imaskar]

If you have a proc, yes. If not - you could probably wait forever.

[Breakerzeus]

Had this case several times so far. I tried to delay Comb until I had Bracers proc. Half of the time it worked out well, within the next 2-3 HS procs I got the Bracers proc. But the other half I almost delayed it for 1 Minute. That's way to long. So I decided to delay it just a couple of seconds. Like 3-4 HS. If there's not proc while have this amount of HS, then I pull comb because the dps loss of delaying isn't worth the amount of extra DMG you get from bracer proc into Comb.
But that's just IMHO.

EDIT: But I recommend that you take care of the proc and keep your eyes on Comb CD. I noticed that I used HC-pyro just seconds before Comb goes off cd. And I could've delayed HC-Pyro alittle bit to use it together with Comb. That way you lose almost no DPS and get the full boost of comb. But ofc, it's depending of hc-pyro proccs and timings you can't rely on.

[Àraya]

ey, Guys i also got the 4pc Set Yesterday, & i felt very Well in Mythic Nighthold. But one Short question, whats the minmal Crit Cap u should have with 4pc, cause when i wear 870 Chest with socket i got 57 % when i wear 900 Chest from Anomalie i only got 53% :/ Legendarys: Trinket + Belt Trinkets: Guldan /Botanist. & on Short again, which relic u prefer? 1. PyroDmg, 2. Ignite Dmg, 3. FB casttime, 4. Crit Dmg? Thanks 4 replys
Bloody Greetings from Blackrock.
Àraya

[Karbuncle]

Dumb question:

I just got the legendary bracers today, so my question is what talents should I change to support it if any? Should I now take Pryomaniac over Conflagration? Should I take Controlled Burn now over Flame On?

Edit: Simming suggests Pryomaniac is slightly better by 2k, but Controlled Burn a loss of 10k. However, I don't know if it takes into account the bracer proc.

[dabsence]

Dumb question:

I just got the legendary bracers today, so my question is what talents should I change to support it if any? Should I now take Pryomaniac over Conflagration? Should I take Controlled Burn now over Flame On?

Edit: Simming suggests Pryomaniac is slightly better by 2k, but Controlled Burn a loss of 10k. However, I don't know if it takes into account the bracer proc.

Would not suggest Pyro in any case. Technically a dps increase but the proc is so hard to play around that conflag ends up being better. You won't take controlled burn. Heavy aoe or db helm and you take alextrazzas fury, otherwise always flame on. The biggest change is gonna be rune of power. Bracers favor rune over mirror image by quite a lot.

[Karbuncle]

Would not suggest Pyro in any case. Technically a dps increase but the proc is so hard to play around that conflag ends up being better. You won't take controlled burn. Heavy aoe or db helm and you take alextrazzas fury, otherwise always flame on. The biggest change is gonna be rune of power. Bracers favor rune over mirror image by quite a lot.

Interesting, I tried Pryo with UM and using weak auras to make maximum use of the proc, and I was doing MUCH better DPS than before I got the bracers. Like a solid 50k DPS better, and I was actually topping meters on single target fights (though admittedly the raid was half-pugged due to the holiday). Did not think to try rune of power as I was using MI the whole night. I will try rune next time around to see how it goes.

Now I do also have the legendary helm, but I've been preferring to use the Shard ring instead. It ranks better according to the guides anyway.

[Ascherino]

Hello in the trinket sims Arcanocrystal is very high. Is this an 860 base ilvl Arcanocrystal in the sim or is it scaled up to 900 ilvl?

[Makz]

Hello in the trinket sims Arcanocrystal is very high. Is this an 860 base ilvl Arcanocrystal in the sim or is it scaled up to 900 ilvl?

The 860 AC ranks super high because of the quad stat, its just OP and only gets outshined by 895+ish trinkets.

@Karbuncle Pyro is best atm because the Conflag damage is only really good with a lot more than a couple targets. Perhaps on Tich it can be good, but most people smoke the adds anyway.

[Peguinha]

Hey guys i see lots of mage enchant rings and using vers gems on gear.

Anyone have some ideias why? I Sim my char with chants and vers gems but no positive effect

[broedrost]

Hey guys i see lots of mage enchant rings and using vers gems on gear.

Anyone have some ideias why? I Sim my char with chants and vers gems but no positive effect

Are you sure they aren't arcane? I've seen alot of arcane mages do this

[Peguinha]

Hey guys i see lots of mage enchant rings and using vers gems on gear.

Anyone have some ideias why? I Sim my char with chants and vers gems but no positive effect

Are you sure they aren't arcane? I've seen alot of arcane mages do this

Idk... i see they on fire logs and on armory they are on fire spec.
Maybe they switch specs and still same gems/enchants

[Taelon]

Relic Sims.
Edit: changed some things as my Pyroblast info was based on wrong itemcode

I've just simmed relics for me. What i notice is that the relic Fireball Cast is much lower like below Ignite/ Critdmg relics. Most likely this is because i have Koralon and Darkli's. So something to note is that talents / legendaries that reduce the amount of fireball casts heavily reduce this relic in value.
Eventhough FBcast sims consistantly lower it does have the highest maximum range.

In 4target. I see flamestrike the highest, but Critdmg and ignite does almost the same dmg. Considering DB doesnt generate ignite and ignite isnt burst. Critdmg seems the most consistant relic

So for me the best relics are Critdmg >= Ignite > Pyroblast

If you have BiS legendaries the relic value will be different

[Sonesful]

Hows Flame Patch doing? Which fights in NH would you favor it over LB?

[Imaskar]

I use it only on aluriel, also tried on anomaly and it was okay. Some use it on botanist.
You can take a look at theese stats https://www.warcraftlogs.com/statistics ... fo=Talents" target="_blank just switch bosses.

[Peguinha]

good evening

Today i drop fire gloves and just have 1 good legendary.... the bracer.
i will use the gloves and i wanna know one thing:

How Combustion works with mirror image?

[DyLemma]

good evening

Today i drop fire gloves and just have 1 good legendary.... the bracer.
i will use the gloves and i wanna know one thing:

How Combustion works with mirror image?

Best thing you can do is pretend you never got those gloves.