Arcane trinket comparison [Updated 6.1]

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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Komma Sat Dec 20, 2014 8:06 pm

When NT/RoP/OP is a debatable talent combo in regards to its performance, sure it might be harsh of me to write it off, but when there is a talent combo which is leaving Arcane as fully competitive/strongest (SN/RoP/PC), albeit in a niche situation, IMO it's better to at least test that out first, and once there is more data presented for the other talent combos we can see from there. Just my two cents, though.
Agreed. Most information should be based on SN/RoP/PC right now.

That said, we need to keep in mind that PC occasionally has weird haste breakpoint issues. Let's be careful when interpreting the data.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Hotpots Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:23 pm

Any updated Sim on Arcane trinks, figured I'd swap now after progress and It'll be strong in BRF.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Graven Mon Dec 29, 2014 4:47 pm

If you're using Shards of Nothing, is it a DPS increase to unglyph Arcane Power so that those CDs line up? As of now, the trink tends to be the odd man out on my CD rotations.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Wilderness Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:19 pm

If you're using Shards of Nothing, is it a DPS increase to unglyph Arcane Power so that those CDs line up? As of now, the trink tends to be the odd man out on my CD rotations.
The CD on Shards is 2 minutes, so its not going to line up with AP anyway unless you're holding AP for it, which I can't imagine would be a dps gain. That trinket lines up nicely with MI for frost, but I haven't found a good way to use it with Fire or Arcane besides just on CD for the most part.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Trollmorph Tue Dec 30, 2014 11:19 am

Are those Rankings still Valid? So the PvP Insignia is OP for arcane pre mythic Imp kill (Shards+Insignia)
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Wilderness Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:00 pm

Are those Rankings still Valid? So the PvP Insignia is OP for arcane pre mythic Imp kill (Shards+Insignia)
Keep in mind the talents that those rankings were run under - you are probably better off simming yourself. For my own gear when I ran Sims with NT/RoP/AO and SN/RoP/PC the PVP trinket wasn't nearly as high. The rest of the trinkets were pretty similar, but the PVP one wasn't as good as listed here.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Trollmorph Wed Dec 31, 2014 12:01 pm

Running SN/ROP/PC

Tested 660pvp+DMF_Stage3 VS Cope+DMF_Stage3

Yeah I m kina unlucky with trinket :/ looks like cope wins against 660.

BTW why does simshighend NT/ROP/AO so high
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby causevha Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:37 am

So Askmrrobot is wrong when it says that http://www.wowhead.com/item=114550/" target="_blank is better than http://www.wowhead.com/item=111228" target="_blank? (http://www.wowhead.com/item=113835&bonus=566" target="_blank is my 2nd trinket)
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Berlinia Sun Jan 04, 2015 2:05 pm

spec?
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Starmagic Sun Jan 04, 2015 7:45 pm

PvP looks better on sims.
By the way why are you using mark of warsong on your wep? It should Bleeding Hallow?
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby causevha Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:30 pm

PvP looks better on sims.
By the way why are you using mark of warsong on your wep? It should Bleeding Hallow?
i'll wait for a new weapon and go for bleeding hallow. I think mark of warsong was better when i had worse gear.

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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Komma Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:04 am

Due to some APL changes and bugfixes, I think the comparison charts need some updates, maybe with new talent selections. Hopefully Chev will be back soon to refresh the charts!
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Chev Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:21 am

Due to some APL changes and bugfixes, I think the comparison charts need some updates, maybe with new talent selections. Hopefully Chev will be back soon to refresh the charts!
Yes, I went away over the Christmas / New Year period. Im just waiting for the 603-22 version and then I will re-run all of the sims again.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Chev Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:40 pm

The OP has been updated after the 603-22 version of Simulation Craft has been updated. I used 2 talent combinations this time.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Offroad Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:28 pm

The OP has been updated after the 603-22 version of Simulation Craft has been updated. I used 2 talent combinations this time.
Thank you for the updated sims. Just started to get back into arcane and I have Mythic Shards and enough conquest points for the pvp trinket. Feels good 8-)
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Wilderness Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:42 am

The OP has been updated after the 603-22 version of Simulation Craft has been updated. I used 2 talent combinations this time.
Where can I get the 603-22 version? I don't see it listed on SimC's downloads. The sims I run of my own character with SN/RoP/PC on light-movement single target on 603-21 still have the PVP trinket showing not nearly as highly as those.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Komma Wed Jan 07, 2015 2:02 am

Where can I get the 603-22 version? I don't see it listed on SimC's downloads. The sims I run of my own character with SN/RoP/PC on light-movement single target on 603-21 still have the PVP trinket showing not nearly as highly as those.
http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/?C=M;O=D" target="_blank
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Wilderness Wed Jan 07, 2015 3:27 am

Thanks, but for whatever reason those aren't working. After installing (I'm on windows) the program never opens. I tried the zip and the 32 and 64 bit ones.
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Re: Arcane trinket comparison for Highmaul (Updated)

Unread postby Komma Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:34 am

Thanks, but for whatever reason those aren't working. After installing (I'm on windows) the program never opens. I tried the zip and the 32 and 64 bit ones.
Odd...I would open a ticket at their issue tracker, just to see if they might have answers: https://code.google.com/p/simulationcraft/issues/list" target="_blank

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