Another Combustion Trick? 2T17+PC

[Methusula]

Often getting better results by dumping one more pyro after 2x IB into it before combustion.

How are you getting better results this way? The idea is to spread the big ignite from PC to the boss, the combusting the boss. If you burn your IB's first, that last Pyro is wasted on the crystal. Or are you saying that you are dumping the pyro on the boss after switching from crystal?

[Komma]

Or are you saying that you are dumping the pyro on the boss after switching from crystal?

This I think. I saw similar results - after double IB and swapping back, sometimes ignite would grow if you landed another pyro crit. I'm not sure why that happens either.

[skiz]

Or are you saying that you are dumping the pyro on the boss after switching from crystal?

This I think. I saw similar results - after double IB and swapping back, sometimes ignite would grow if you landed another pyro crit. I'm not sure why that happens either.

Yip, exactly. Mostly happens with not many crits before, no 4pc procc, no trinket procc and stuff like that. However, even with okayisch proccs this happens.

[Chuey]

Is it worth using kindling without combust glyph for this so you can abuse the third IB from combust more often on heavy cleave fights?

[TLTeo]

Can't use kindling when you need PC for it

[Chev]

Can't use kindling when you need PC for it

You only need PC for it on single target. There is nothing stopping you using Kindling on a multi target fight.

[TLTeo]

My bad i didn't think of that >.> i guess without the extra damage done on the PC the effect won't be nearly as noticable though.

[Nisroc]

My bad i didn't think of that >.> i guess without the extra damage done on the PC the effect won't be nearly as noticable though.

Perhaps you missed the part where komma stated that meteor was better for this trick?
I could definately see it being usefull for kindling aswell but personally i gotta wait to get my hands on 2 piece to test it.

[Garrod]

Got my 2pc last night, gonna spend a good chunk of time playing with it today ^_^

[Blugatti]

got a pretty DANK 32.8k ignite on maidens last night but we didnt get the kill that attempt, i got my 4pc to make up for it though so its all gucci

[Lyrik]

May I ask how you use meteor together with this to increase your ignite? Because Meteor seems like a kind of useless spell to increase ignites. It´s supposed to land when my pyro hits, but it always lands earlier/later depending on if I cast a fireball or just burn the pyro proc

[Blugatti]

when I was playing on dummies, i got a heating up + insta-pyro set up, meteor, go through with pyro dump and the meteor usually hits in the middle of end of that, and from there its just IBx2, switch targets combustion.

[Lyrik]

Lets take Iron maidens as an example. Would you want to use meteor or PC for this fight? I´m still at kromog with my guild, so didnt have the chance to play around with talents on the maidens fight yet.

[Valounette]

Any estimates on how much DPS value on single target and AoE this adds?

[Smaiki]

Any estimates on how much DPS value on single target and AoE this adds?

We tank them together, so rather Kindling?

[Garrod]

Best I was able to do was 26k Ignite on a Blackhand attempt with PC. Didn't really get to mess with Meteor on any of the multiple target fights yet, might dick with it in some PuG's this weekend though.

[Blugatti]

yeah, I ran kindling.

[Lyrik]

so you basically just want to use up both IB after you burned all the pyros if I´m getting that right and after that switch targets and combust?

[DeXtreme]

I'm having trouble replicating this, double IB doesn't seem to stack at all it just spreads my new ignite and overwrites it. How important is the 1 sec global CD you were talking about? I get the theory of it but dumping everything then double IB doesnt net me much increase at all right now...

[Komma]

so you basically just want to use up both IB after you burned all the pyros if I´m getting that right and after that switch targets and combust?

More or less, yes.

I'm having trouble replicating this, double IB doesn't seem to stack at all it just spreads my new ignite and overwrites it. How important is the 1 sec global CD you were talking about? I get the theory of it but dumping everything then double IB doesnt net me much increase at all right now...

It definitely doesn't just "overwrite". Getting close to the 1 sec GCD is important, to avoid too many ticks of ignite being lost in between spreads.

It's not trivial to reproduce, and the gain isn't substantial unless you have high haste and built a large ignite on your main target. Otherwise, the first IB's ignite contribution might overshadow whatever you spread.