34 seconds into pull first proc

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Glitzerbling
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Glitzerbling Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:07 am

As far as i understand, the rppm reset sets the time since last proc to 120 sec, which is a guaranteed proc for 0.9 procs p m but not for arcanes super low pof ppm? So having the trinket proc some time into the fight can happen, its just very unlikely.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:14 am

It might be related to the "current encounter" flag. I noticed that after a wipe on Gorefiend my weakauras for it were loaded on the configuration screen, when I had set them up to be only loaded during Gorefiend. As far as know, it's not enough to be near him but you have to engage (correct me if I'm wrong).
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Poly Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:41 am

So i tested this on Archimonde Heroic, using glyphed Ice Block pre pull and canceling it ~2 seconds in fight:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bJ ... ity=184073" target="_blank

I can confirm, its actually a mistake made by the combatlog itself and has nothing to do with the trinket, because my pof did proc on pull on my PC.

prove:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bJ ... ity=184075" target="_blank

It seems like prepull Iceblock is doing some strange things to combatlogging

Edit:
NVM, just noticed PC is considered a friendly unit, which turns this into a wrong statement, sorry about that. >.<
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Kirielle Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:44 am

On our mythic Archie pulls, mythic PoF was frequently taking 8+ seconds to proc :-/ Obviously not as bad as what you folks experienced but pretty horrible for first ring explosion.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:47 am

So i tested this on Archimonde Heroic, using glyphed Ice Block pre pull and canceling it ~2 seconds in fight:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bJ ... ity=184073" target="_blank

I can confirm, its actually a mistake made by the combatlog itself and has nothing to do with the trinket, because my pof did proc on pull on my PC.

prove:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bJ ... ity=184075" target="_blank

It seems like prepull Iceblock is doing some strange things to combatlogging
You have damage though. DyLemma claims it didn't proc at all. Unless s/he didn't notice.

Poly, do you have a weakaura that reports the proc but it didn't report it there?

If you are right it either drops the event completely or only on the text file.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Komma Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:06 am

Tested in ICC with a buddy. Neither Ice Block nor Glyph of Ice Block prevent the RPPM reset.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby DyLemma Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:30 am

It did not proc, it would show on the log if it did and I know for a fact it did not. Still a mystery, not that a care just mysterious like I said. :P But on my log I cancelled ice block nearly instantly.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:14 am

It did not proc, it would show on the log if it did and I know for a fact it did not. Still a mystery, not that a care just mysterious like I said. :P But on my log I cancelled ice block nearly instantly.
It could be frost nova (itself via its damage) consumes the proc on boss but glyph immunity prevents it server-side from showing up, but Komma might have tested that.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Fleks Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:38 am

Things that never happen on a regular pull,PoF will always procc no matter if you equipped it shortly on the pulltimer or anything else,still curious what exactly "triggered" this scenario
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Kirielle Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:28 am

As far as boss fights go, I can confirm that if PoF procs just before boss is engaged (for instance on one of Gorefiend's adds, or *on crystal that you placed before the pull and precast onto*) it will not show up on the log for the boss fight, although of course in the crystal case the doom nova will still be reflected. Probably not what happened to Dylemma since he was sitting inside iceblock, but it can happen.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:48 pm

It would show the damage part though on logs if it didn't show the proc, unless s/he was hitting the wrong target.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Aivie Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:42 am

I just had a "1min20 into pull first proc" tonight.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bL ... ity=184073" target="_blank

I know RPPM is bugged but this is very strange.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:41 am

Since it's Gorefiend again, it probably procs to standby targets in the belly or other such dummy targets that aren't up yet.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Gorstag Sat Mar 12, 2016 4:36 am

I encountered the same problem while not using iceblock on pull, and puting cristal just after the pull (but even if it was before pull and the proc no shown on logs, no any damage from doom nova while i was hiting the cristal so no proc).

49 seconds wype without any proc (here was inactive ~15 last ) : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mr ... w=timeline" target="_blank

And the best : 2min17 fight, 1 min 37 alive without any proc : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mr ... &target=11" target="_blank

I wanted to test mannoroth trinket on gorefiend but i finally use an other one when i saw it seemed to be broken on this boss...

So according to me there is a bug specific to gorefiend.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby SH4D0WS1N Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:32 am

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ha ... ity=184073" target="_blank

Non-Gorefiend parse. 1:21 in is my first proc.

However, I don't think the boss was active when my first one hit, which could have messed with my first proc.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Zodine Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:27 pm

As soon as i changed to troll, i dont get nowhere near as many procs with prophecy, same with another mage in the guild, i swear to god.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Rinoa Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:05 pm

Please provide data if you're going to make statements like that. The odds are overwhelmingly in favour of it being bias.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby yungg Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:58 am

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ay ... ity=184073" target="_blank

mark of doom 30s in, didnt attack anything before pull, but i did unequip and reequip pof ~5s before pull.
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Re: 34 seconds into pull first proc

Unread postby Curnivore Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:27 pm

I think that's normal.

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