Fire Mages are alive again (Updated for 6.2.3)

[Searix]

Cool, re-read that thread, did a lot of testing.

Summary:
-If fireball+pyroblast is your opener on crystal (aka not scorching it to build stacks), ignite's initial timer is set to 5.0 then 6.0 (or 5.9) immediately.
-Did some range testing:


It's also possible to get 0 seconds between your fireball cast and ignite proc

Note: Above tests were done by creating a 10 second duration weakaura that procs when Fireball is 'cast' in combat logs, and when ignite is 'cast' on the mob and subtracting the difference to determine travel time

This should mean we can reliably get ~6.6 seconds of ignite for combustion correct? Superchinese while running in from 20 yards means it takes 0.7 seconds to travel to boss to start ignite, ignite hits and it set to 5.0 then 5.9 immediately.

At a minimum that should mean we should be able to get all of superchinese in during lust

Edit: I also made a video for anyone who wants to learn/show others how to do fire opener.

https://www.twitch.tv/searix/v/66860720" target="_blank

[BIGfoonk]

Long time Lurker.... First time poster. I've got pretty good logs as fire but started to see a lot of this Chinese Vs Super Chinese rotations. I was always cooking most of my damage into ring and Sac a little bit of Combust Tick damage. I normal get 100k Combust with 3-4Million ring with
(W/Lust)
Fireball>Pyro>pyro>pyro>IB>Combust>IB>DBx2/BWx2
(Wout/Lust)
Fireball>Pyro>pyro>pyro>IB>Combust>IB>DBx2/BWx2

Now I was able to snap a 705 Kihrah's Adrenaline Injector with 2130 Master on use. On a target dummy I switch my opener too SuperChinese.
(W/Lust)
Fireball>Pyro>Fireball>Pyro>pyro>pyro>Combust>IB>DBx2>BWx1

I am seeing good results, about 150k-160k++ Combust ticks with no raid buffs.

Using the On-Use-Trinket for Mastery gain, Is Super Chinese the way to go or should I try another rotation?

[hakix]

Could someone explain to me that rotation?

Fireball>Pyro>Fireball>Pyro>pyro>pyro>Combust>IB>DBx2>BWx1

i mean, it is to manually cast pyro without heat up proc on the 3 pyro sequence?

[Glitzerbling]

Could someone explain to me that rotation?

Fireball>Pyro>Fireball>Pyro>pyro>pyro>Combust>IB>DBx2>BWx1

i mean, it is to manually cast pyro without heat up proc on the 3 pyro sequence?

no. you heave heating up and hotstreak.

cast fireball and instant pyro -> you lose Hotstreak, get 2 crits on a heating up, so hotstreak and heating up again.
same thing repeats with the next fireball pyroblast.

then you cast the 3rd instant pyroblast. you lose Hotstreak, but gain a Hotstreak from the heating up + pyro crit.

and last pyro has hotstreak again.