[7.1.5] Fire mage guide for Legion, by Rinoa

[LiQiang]

Hi guys,
my english is not very good, so excuse me but I want to clarify things for me, maybe I misunderstood a part of the guide.
Combustion not active and the following situation:
- i get heating up
- i fireblast to get hotstreak
- now I cast a fireball and follow it up with the instant pyro, hoping for another heating up or hotstreak

Is this right?

Greetings
LiQiang

[tonytaponi]

Hi guys,
my english is not very good, so excuse me but I want to clarify things for me, maybe I misunderstood a part of the guide.
Combustion not active and the following situation:
- i get heating up
- i fireblast to get hotstreak
- now I cast a fireball and follow it up with the instant pyro, hoping for another heating up or hotstreak

Is this right?

Greetings
LiQiang

Well, generally yes, except you probably should cast fire blast during casting fireball.

The exception may be though if, for example, you stay on the rune and it's about to expire and you probably should cast fire blast and then pyroblast immediately to deal high damage with the rune buff.

By the way, am I the only one who see hyperlinks into the guide as... well, hyperlinks) It seems that there must be icons with pop-up tooltip.

[juanderboy]

Hi everyone. Rinoa, this guide is great, thanks for the work
Is there any set of WeakAuras to track the new things?
Also, i have Heroic ToSW and i don't go OOM with 1400 haste. Should i take flame patch talent? I'm doing good numbers in the dummy with that talent and ToSW without going OOM.

Thanks!

ps. sorry for my english.

[somajs]

Hi everyone. Rinoa, this guide is great, thanks for the work
Is there any set of WeakAuras to track the new things?
Also, i have Heroic ToSW and i don't go OOM with 1400 haste. Should i take flame patch talent? I'm doing good numbers in the dummy with that talent and ToSW without going OOM.

Thanks!

ps. sorry for my english.

Yeah you should take Flame Patch, even if it's bugged I think. And they are hotfixing ToSW, maybe it's already there.

[henne1337]

Hey Guys.

I got a pretty interesting question.

I got Archi mythic WF Weapon and Xhul Mythic Wf weapon...
Is that Xhul weapon better now ? Because of the +426 crit?

Can't find an official Simcraft download, so i need to ask you guys

Thanks for your help

[Ace24]

Hello there!
So, let's talk BiS gear and talents.

I'd say, Xhul staff is now no.1, Iskar chest for the off piece and for trinkets.....Sandman's & PoF single target, then Sandman's and Class trinket for AoE.
As for talents, its pyro,unstable magic and cinderstorm for ST and for AoE should be conflag, flame patch + cinderstorm again?
I'd love going kindling but i t doesn't align well with the ring so that just leaves cinderstorm for any kind of encounter(unless kormrok hands which if you time correctly meteor its op maybe?
What's your thoughts for talents for each HFC boss? And trinkets?
Also, is Stone of the elements worth going over POF for single target?

[Causese]

stats:
https://gyazo.com/56c82a494bc9edf12bf10d6d46b2684e" target="_blank

haste seems to be somewhat important to get that last pyro while rune of power is up. My racial aswell.

talents:
https://gyazo.com/7d7bf1b187027b1d9836e4150ae7388b" target="_blank

opener:



don't bother with prophecy of fear, disregard anything that happens after I placed the 2nd rune

[Aivie]

Why not starting with scorch for your opener ?

[ardomur]

@Causese
Rinoa wrote on the first page that Scorching during Combusting is better so im gonna assume you have to replace every Fireball you did during your opener with a Scorch (i have no idea how to quote ^^)

Persian wrote:Why does Scorch have a place in the Combustion* rotation, is the lower cast time worth the lesser damage for the crit, or does Scorch have an interaction that isn't listed on the tooltip?


Rinoa wrote:The shorter cast time allows for quicker Hot Streak generation. While Scorch does very little damage on its own, it results in more time being spent on HS-Pyroblasting rather than Fireballing during Combustion. The difference is small, but there is a difference.

[Smaiki]

Are you guys enchanting weapon Frostwolf or Thunderlord?

Thunderlord is better in sims for me (109453 dps with 45% buff uptime vs. 109106 dps with 30% buff uptime).

Hey Guys.

I got a pretty interesting question.

I got Archi mythic WF Weapon and Xhul Mythic Wf weapon...
Is that Xhul weapon better now ? Because of the +426 crit?

Can't find an official Simcraft download, so i need to ask you guys

Thanks for your help

Edict simmed 1k higher for me.
http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/?C=M;O=D" target="_blank
http://downloads.simulationcraft.org/si ... 1-win64.7z" target="_blank

assuming this is how you want to do your opener

1.precast rune of power
2. combustion
3. cast fireball to procc doom nova
4. cast cinderstorm to trigger doom nova (gamble)
5. fireblast - pyroblast - fireblast - pyroblast - flame on - fireblast - pyroblast - fireball - cinderstorm (to trigger doom nova again) - rune of power ...

Also Combustion is off GCD and can be used while casting. So to save 1 sec of Combustion, you should use it right at the end (+ lag/delay tolerance) of your Fireball cast.

[henne1337]

Thank you very much

[Phígment]

As far as trinkets out of these three I have what one would you use?
All are upgraded 2/2
Heroic PoF no ilvl upgrade
Mythic Seethe no ilvl upgrade w/ socket
Chipped Soul Prism ilvl 720 (730 with 2/2) w/socket (just got last night)

I'm thinking the Soul Prism just due to the stats and socket.

For the second trinket slot I was using a Heroic Tome w/ socket.
Thanks, Phíg

[Causese]

what's strange is that you seem to need a certain amount of haste (not sure if it can be reached) to be able to cast 2x cinderstorm (since cd is based on haste) during doom nova after BL ran out (unless I'm just slow) i suck at maths and have no idea if it's worth it to stack haste (from enchants etc) for that purpose.

edit: replaced the video above with scorch opener

[prateems]

Any word on whether or not the ToSW bug with mana cost has been fixed? Also I had no idea Flame Patch was bugged like that. I assume this has also been brought to their attention?

[Thisgame]

Most of last night I was running to about half mana during the longer boss fights on mythic using ToSW with 19% unbuffed haste. It is still using mana for sure so if you have a higher haste level or get more procs I could see you still running out of mana BUT I did not on the bosses we ran last night. Hellfire High Council took like 6 minutes too because a bunch of dummies were dying to mechanics so I don't see you running oom, my 2c anyway.

[Fleks]

1. Pyroblast precast--> Cinderstorm (to procc trinkets)
2. Bloodlust and cast Fireball (if your raid uses ring slightly delayed) or Scorch (if they use it instantly) till you have a Pyro
3. Rune+Cd´s -> Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Flame On, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Scorch, Pyroblast, Scorch, Pyroblast (move a bit for this Pyro or you might hardcast it.), Fire Blast, Pyroblast

This should be the Opener with the most Pyros inside Comb and Ignite ticks were between 110k and 170k

Edit: Assuming you play without Pyromaniac of course

[Azuren]

Did some testing on Cinderstorm.

It seems 25-28 yards is the sweet spot to hitting a small target (I used a Feral Druid as my target) with all 6 cinders.

That having been said, I am not sure which hits harder in the long run between meteor and cinderstorm. Is Cinder doing better over the duration or are they very close together?

[Pkm]

1. Pyroblast precast--> Cinderstorm (to procc trinkets)
2. Bloodlust and cast Fireball (if your raid uses ring slightly delayed) or Scorch (if they use it instantly) till you have a Pyro
3. Rune+Cd´s -> Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Flame On, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Fire Blast, Pyroblast, Scorch, Scorch, Pyroblast, Scorch, Pyroblast (move a bit for this Pyro or you might hardcast it.), Fire Blast, Pyroblast

This should be the Opener with the most Pyros inside Comb and Ignite ticks were between 110k and 170k

Edit: Assuming you play without Pyromaniac of course

In the past I've always known scorch as pointless to cast from what guides have told me anyway. So is it actually useful now?

[mattyc33]

Would anyone be able to help me out with macros and weakauras? I'm not great with these things and I think I should be macro'ing my potion to combustion but I don't know how.

Thanks

[Guttz]

Would anyone be able to help me out with macros and weakauras? I'm not great with these things and I think I should be macro'ing my potion to combustion but I don't know how.

Thanks

What kind of Weak Auras are you looking for? And for the macro you mentioned above... it would look like this:

/use draenic intellect potion
/cast combustion

Idk what you want the button to appear as... But for example if you just want it to look like the art/button for Combustion - you would just add #showtooltip Combustion to the macro:

#showtooltip Combustion
/use Draenic Intellect Potion
/cast Combustion