[7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Frosted Mon Sep 26, 2016 4:28 pm

Once hotfixes go live I'll update the OP for all the specs.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Pkm Mon Sep 26, 2016 5:03 pm

Is bough of corruption not in the sims there or am i blind. Just picked it up in heroic xavius.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby mml Tue Sep 27, 2016 3:09 am

860 statstick might be better than 840 naraxas but im not 100% sure.
Sim ur caracter to be sure
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby broedrost Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:17 am

Still no thoughts about Portable Manacracker? I think it's odd since Icy Veins lists it as a BiS along with Wriggling Sinew
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Unreal Tue Sep 27, 2016 5:58 am

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Edit: Credit to Komma. If you'd check his dropbox link you'd actually see the results yourself. He has newer sims up, though not every trinket is present on those lists.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby zaromath Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:08 pm

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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Arcade Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:39 pm

Yesterday I achieved the Horror Slime Trinket. I was wondering if the sims consider that the proc can crit and profit from the artifact crit buff.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Rivriven Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:41 pm

I'm trying to figure out which trinkets should I use. I have 835 Devlisaur, 840 Stormsinger Fulmination Charge, 865 Swarming Plaguehive and 850 Unstable Horrorslime. Any suggestions?
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby btracks Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:01 pm

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Edit: Credit to Komma. If you'd check his dropbox link you'd actually see the results yourself. He has newer sims up, though not every trinket is present on those lists.
would you mind sharing said dropbox link?
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Frosted Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:24 pm

OP updated to include EN single target and AoE trinket comparisons. Twisting Wind should be fine now.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Breshnak Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:15 am

In latest PTR notes molten armor only increases crit by 10% instead of 15%. Approximately how big an effect would this be?
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Voltairus Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:32 am

What item level are these trinkets being simmed at for the comparisons? Also, what about the sections for trinket combination? Those sections should be updated soon I hope.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Wirtz Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:16 am

OP updated to include EN single target and AoE trinket comparisons. Twisting Wind should be fine now.
Can you update the dropbox links?

I'm having trouble simulating the Wriggling Sinew tinket, it does 0 damage :/
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby hatsumi Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:47 am

Hi all!

How about that trinket :arrow: http://www.wowhead.com/item=139336/boug ... bonus=1807" target="_blank
anyone tested it?

Thx!

WBR
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Lammer Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:01 pm

Hi all!

How about that trinket :arrow: http://www.wowhead.com/item=139336/boug ... bonus=1807" target="_blank
anyone tested it?

Thx!

WBR
Simcraft doesn't see damage from it, so what we can do is to look at logs. Results:

1. Almost noone uses it whether it is solo fight or fight with adds
2. In 18/20 of logs, where I found this trinket was used, it provided 1-4% of total damage, which is much less than Shock baton (4-8%), for example
3. I have heroic (865) version of this trinket. 1-2% of my total damage per boss

Summary: this trinket is trash
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Potaetoe Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:09 pm

Hi all!

How about that trinket :arrow: http://www.wowhead.com/item=139336/boug ... bonus=1807" target="_blank
anyone tested it?

Thx!

WBR
Simcraft doesn't see damage from it, so what we can do is to look at logs. Results:

1. Almost noone uses it whether it is solo fight or fight with adds
2. In 18/20 of logs, where I found this trinket was used, it provided 1-4% of total damage, which is much less than Shock baton (4-8%), for example
3. I have heroic (865) version of this trinket. 1-2% of my total damage per boss

Summary: this trinket is trash

Someone should also check Mythic+ logs. It's plausible it's decent for AoE. We forget about AoE a lot, but an AoE trinket isn't uncommon. Eye of Skovald comes to mind for example.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Juravieal Fri Sep 30, 2016 1:03 am

In latest PTR notes molten armor only increases crit by 10% instead of 15%. Approximately how big an effect would this be?

I believe this is just a tool tip change, and MMO has it backwards. Current Molten armor is giving 20% crit, but the tooltip only says 15%. On the PTR you still get 20%, and the tooltip has been corrected.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Imaskar Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:31 am

I'm sorry if it was discussed before, but does our upcoming 4pc bonus extend with more procs?
http://www.wowdb.com/spells/211395-item ... e-4p-bonus" target="_blank
It would be a very cool combo with kindling IMO. To push cd back with faster crits.
The 2pc is a lackluster, though.
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby kamui Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:58 am

Are the simmed Emerald Nightmare trinkets 865 or 880?

Also, this is rather specific but...

At which ilvl difference does Swarming Plaguehive take over Baton and Naraxas? Where can I find the ID and bonus ID of EN trinkets to do sims?
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Re: [7.0] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

Unread postby Zulandia Fri Sep 30, 2016 7:07 pm

Are the simmed Emerald Nightmare trinkets 865 or 880?

Also, this is rather specific but...

At which ilvl difference does Swarming Plaguehive take over Baton and Naraxas? Where can I find the ID and bonus ID of EN trinkets to do sims?
865, forget the bonusIDs (except for gem slots) and use ilevel= instead. The only difference will be how the tooltip appears for the wowhead link in the report. In regards to regular ID you can look the trinket up on wowhead and it will appear in the url.

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