[7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

[Falq]

This means that we spent 15% of the fight >85% HP - which gives significant strength to Firestarter. In reality, this is not a reasonable assumption to make. Therefore, Firestarter is overvalued here. It's probably nowhere near as good as it seems here, and it's value shifts as you take different trinkets.

So, anyone like me waiting eagerly for Odyn fight?

The first part of the fight is not using it much and the last part is only saving 10% from it.

On heroic you have adds from P1 which come untill brought to 90%, and on mythic they are gone at 85% so you get extra firestarter uptime on them.

[Destru]

Anyone have info about some stealth nerf for Aran's?

Seems to proc much more erratically after the reset.

[Petfood101]

When your using the Ruby+chest combo, when does a higher ilvl chest outweigh the dps granted by the combo?

[Peguinha]

Guys i really need some help.

Today i get a dragon´s nightmare chest 880ilvl 918Haste/542Mastery + slot
i use another chest from myt+ 860 968crit/387Mastery.

my stats with the 860 is 62% crit / 16% haste / 12% mast
with 880 is 59%crit / 19% haste / 12 mast

i run my char on simulationCraft and the results scary me
With 860 chest the weights is:
Intellect=10.24, CritRating=13.21, HasteRating=7.29, MasteryRating=8.16, Versatility=10.36

with 880 chest the weithts is:
Intellect=9.68, CritRating=13.10, HasteRating=14.04, MasteryRating=7.89, Versatility=10.07

The "final" dps on both sims are the "same" 415180 dps and 414796 dps

What scary me is the weights from haste.. with 19% haste weight is 14.04 and with 16% haste is 7.29

someone can tell me why 3% make the double weight??

Thanks and im sorry about english, I tried to make myself understood.

my Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/a ... s/advanced" target="_blank

[nickseng]

You might have to do a reforge plot to check, but whenever haste is close to a breakpoint, the value of it rises a lot.

[Imaskar]

Did they nerf something this reset? My dps dropped significantly. I noticed Horrorslime doing half its usual damage. Maybe, something else?

[Lahrast]

Guys i really need some help.

Today i get a dragon´s nightmare chest 880ilvl 918Haste/542Mastery + slot
i use another chest from myt+ 860 968crit/387Mastery.

my stats with the 860 is 62% crit / 16% haste / 12% mast
with 880 is 59%crit / 19% haste / 12 mast

i run my char on simulationCraft and the results scary me
With 860 chest the weights is:
Intellect=10.24, CritRating=13.21, HasteRating=7.29, MasteryRating=8.16, Versatility=10.36

with 880 chest the weithts is:
Intellect=9.68, CritRating=13.10, HasteRating=14.04, MasteryRating=7.89, Versatility=10.07

The "final" dps on both sims are the "same" 415180 dps and 414796 dps

What scary me is the weights from haste.. with 19% haste weight is 14.04 and with 16% haste is 7.29

someone can tell me why 3% make the double weight??

Thanks and im sorry about english, I tried to make myself understood.

my Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/a ... s/advanced" target="_blank

at least in my sims there's a big breakpoint at 20,6% that would explain the blown up haste value for you
we both have sun kings, i don't know if it is there without them, after reaching 20,6% haste becomes THE_WORST stat by a huuuuge margin
the breakpoint before 20,6% is 16,1% by the way, try to aim for one of them and put the rest into mastery/versa - worked really well for me the last 2-3 upgrades, try to have some pieces to mix&match in comparable ilvl range if possible, really helps

[Peguinha]

Guys i really need some help.

Today i get a dragon´s nightmare chest 880ilvl 918Haste/542Mastery + slot
i use another chest from myt+ 860 968crit/387Mastery.

my stats with the 860 is 62% crit / 16% haste / 12% mast
with 880 is 59%crit / 19% haste / 12 mast

i run my char on simulationCraft and the results scary me
With 860 chest the weights is:
Intellect=10.24, CritRating=13.21, HasteRating=7.29, MasteryRating=8.16, Versatility=10.36

with 880 chest the weithts is:
Intellect=9.68, CritRating=13.10, HasteRating=14.04, MasteryRating=7.89, Versatility=10.07

The "final" dps on both sims are the "same" 415180 dps and 414796 dps

What scary me is the weights from haste.. with 19% haste weight is 14.04 and with 16% haste is 7.29

someone can tell me why 3% make the double weight??

Thanks and im sorry about english, I tried to make myself understood.

my Armory:
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/a ... s/advanced" target="_blank

at least in my sims there's a big breakpoint at 20,6% that would explain the blown up haste value for you
we both have sun kings, i don't know if it is there without them, after reaching 20,6% haste becomes THE_WORST stat by a huuuuge margin
the breakpoint before 20,6% is 16,1% by the way, try to aim for one of them and put the rest into mastery/versa - worked really well for me the last 2-3 upgrades, try to have some pieces to mix&match in comparable ilvl range if possible, really helps

Lahrast
Thank you for your help.
I'll save these numbers for future simulations.

[sawbossnl]

So with the legendary wrist is it wise to go for haste breakpoints ? As i lose alot of crit if i go for haste

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/F ... l/advanced" target="_blank
Perhaps some one can sim craft me ?

[Sosaria]

Personally I'd go for Devilsaur 850 + Bough of Corruption 865

[slasher016]

Trinket question. On the four target AOE trinket list, how is the empowered Deteriorated Construct Core simming for less DPS than the unempowered one?

[Frosted]

Trinket question. On the four target AOE trinket list, how is the empowered Deteriorated Construct Core simming for less DPS than the unempowered one?

Good question, I'm not sure. Will need to look into the profile when I get home I guess.

[Nyaline]

<i need some advice

Is it better to use 860 arans and chest

or

880 naraxas and 910 belovirs final stand?

[Sosaria]

Belovir's Final Stand and 880 Naraxxas is better than Aran's ruby + Chest.

[nickseng]

<i need some advice

Is it better to use 860 arans and chest

or

880 naraxas and 910 belovirs final stand?

You should probably sim it.

860 Aram + chest combo is waaaaay better than 880 naraxas, the unknown is how much better the belovirs will be

[Nyaline]

Sim shows that Arans + chest are better than Belovirs.
It also shows that 880 Naraxxas is slighly better than 865 sinew which is kinda weird

[Imaskar]

You're simming ST probably. And mastery is the worst stat for ST, while crit is by far the best. Hence, the difference.

[Sosaria]

I'd stick with Belovir (for the int/crit upgrade) + Sinew + Aran's ruby... It's what I had before my bracers dropped and I had to replace Belovir with the bracers.

I simmed 91% Mythic Ursoc with Belovir and 865 Sinew.

Belovir gives nigh immortality, in that the shield it gives stacks with Frost armor which is perfect for any mechanic.

In fact, with the upcoming fire nerf, Belovir is going to be great to use for the new fights... Might use that in place of my Draklis helm.

[Rydis]

Final stand vs 890 nightbane chest?

I already have legendary helm and shard.

Getting this chest just feels crushing now with how bad it is :/

maybe im wrong. Worth replacing nightbane chest and helm/ring? Simming with the chest always puts be at a -dps. A bug or something I dunno

[Falq]

Final stand vs 890 nightbane chest?

I already have legendary helm and shard.

Getting this chest just feels crushing now with how bad it is :/

maybe im wrong. Worth replacing nightbane chest and helm/ring? Simming with the chest always puts be at a -dps. A bug or something I dunno

If you have aran trinket, (and even if you dont, you should get him asap) replacing nightbane chest is not worth at all