[7.1.5] Fire mage guide for Legion, by Rinoa

[infernail]

I don't think that 99% bracket is because of the legendary.

he's got like 15 mil damage with 9 hardcasts of pyro due to bracer's proc. that's almost a half of your pyro damage. seems like it is because of the legendary.

with bracers it's much much easier to get higher rank than w/o them sadly nowadays (for ST bosses). and haste valued much higher for a mage with them too.

even trinkets don't matter that much although extreme well use of sinew can get you around 7% of damage done and extreme luck with empowered ruby procs can bring up to 10%+ on ST

[sawbossnl]

Is there a new rotation already knowing the new change in 7.1.5?

[Imaskar]

Is there a new rotation already knowing the new change in 7.1.5?

Precast FS
ROP, Combust
[PF+FB,FS]*3
[Meteor, [FS] until Meteor cd] until Combust cd

P.S. it was a joke about a bug on PTR, it has been reverted.

[Makkish]

Is there a new rotation already knowing the new change in 7.1.5?

Precast FS
ROP, Combust
[PF+FB,FS]*3
[Meteor, [FS] until Meteor cd] until Combust cd

Aka the new Memespecc Fire Rotation.... (Wich will get nerfed)

[Rinoa]

I'll be updating this to 7.1.5 soon, just need to find the time.

It won't be including the Flamestrike build as it won't make it to mythic NH week.

[Falq]

I'll be updating this to 7.1.5 soon, just need to find the time.

It won't be including the Flamestrike build as it won't make it to mythic NH week.

Isn't it dead already? I couldn't find information about Flame Path buff in official PTR notes

[mad33tcompynrd]

I'll be updating this to 7.1.5 soon, just need to find the time.

It won't be including the Flamestrike build as it won't make it to mythic NH week.

Isn't it dead already? I couldn't find information about Flame Path buff in official PTR notes

They updated the notes again and it seems more complete but there's still no mention of flame patch. I've seen conflicting things in other places, I'll have to wait until I get home and try it out myself to see.

[Rinoa]

Updated. Please let me know if I made any errors or left out anything. I was very tired when writing it.

[Geldor]

Long time lurker here. Thank you very much for updating your guide!

One thing you might want to add is when to exactly casts Meteor (with RoP and/or MI). This is a common question. Should you stack 5 PI first (cast in the middle of combustion)? Or just before combustion? Before RoP and combustion?

[Makkish]

Updated. Please let me know if I made any errors or left out anything. I was very tired when writing it.

Hellfire trinket scales to 865 with 10/10 Upg. Sims quite good for my fire mage with MI and Meteor

[Manzazuu]

I tested mirror image on a couple sims and couldnt really get a conclusive result when against RoP. Anyone else getting mixed results? They seem to be pretty close. Also, meteor seems very powerful when combined with comb/rop rotation.

[Zulandia]

I tested mirror image on a couple sims and couldnt really get a conclusive result when against RoP. Anyone else getting mixed results? They seem to be pretty close. Also, meteor seems very powerful when combined with comb/rop rotation.

CiS/Meteor and RoP/MI can go either way for single target at different gear levels/legendary combos you should be fine to trust whichever SimC tells you. For AoE RoP/CiS will pull ahead regardless though.

[Elandelor]

A few questions regarding Pyro/MI/FO/UM/CiS:

1- Do I cast CiS on cd even though I´m succesfully chaining pyro-fishing w/ 5 stacks of Pyretic Incantation? (in other words: do I interrupt my pyro fishing and cast CiS?)
2- When do I cast PF outside of Combustion?
3- Is it worth trying to get to point-blank range and have all cinders of CiS hit at the same time?
4- What´s the opener like? What´s the best pot to use, PoPP or DG?


Thank You

[Makkish]

I tested mirror image on a couple sims and couldnt really get a conclusive result when against RoP. Anyone else getting mixed results? They seem to be pretty close. Also, meteor seems very powerful when combined with comb/rop rotation.

For me with Bracers RoP sims about 2k ahead but i prefer MI since it is amazing for WQs and a fire and forget spell, and takes the RNG movement element out of the specc compared to RoP

[Sidelle]

So, I've looked around but haven't been able to find any results. With Nighthold literally around the corner, what would a bis list look like for fire? If it helps, my legendaries are sephuz and koralons. Trying to plan ahead on what bosses I'm going to need to coin and what tier pieces to go for.

Thanks!

[Hachiun]

Regarding potions. Is deadly grace still the top dog for dmg? or PPP is now stronger, did anyone test that?

[Spirillum]

Regarding potions. Is deadly grace still the top dog for dmg? or PPP is now stronger, did anyone test that?

For single target with RoP DG appears to still be on top, but PPP pulls ahead with 54 point weapons on cleave or with MI.

These are early indications from simulations, so as always your mileage may vary.

[Hachiun]

Regarding potions. Is deadly grace still the top dog for dmg? or PPP is now stronger, did anyone test that?

For single target with RoP DG appears to still be on top, but PPP pulls ahead with 54 point weapons on cleave or with MI.

These are early indications from simulations, so as always your mileage may vary.

Ya I was thinking that. Since RoP is not that amazing anymore (MI is simming better for me atm), and with the buffed coefficients for most of our spells to increase our sustained dmg the long duration from PPP seems to be more interesting then the deadly grace periodic damage for the shorter duration.

My weapon is still far from the 54th trait, Ill see if I can simm my character with them tonight. Thanks tho for the quick answer.

[regularjohn]

So how does one get an 885 infernal Alchemist Stone as shown in the trinket list?


Can someone tell me how I would sim an upgraded 815 item to 865? ask Mr Robot does not show the 865 version for me.

[Slashfart]

So, I'm trying to think of a good build to run HC EN with my guild (I'm still gearing up and we are on full clear) but don't want to change spec every fight because of the cost of runes. The raid build I'm thinking at the moment seems to be (I don't use simc.... I know, I know):

Conflag (loses 10k dps on pyro but adds cleave) > Shimmer > MI >Flame on > Frenetic Speed > UM > Kindling (Here, should I go meteor??)

So I'm focusing largely on single target but want to throw in some cleave so it doesn't look like I'm slacking when everyone else hits bigger dps on adds. Would it just be better to stick with RoP? Also, as commented above, kindling or meteor?