[7.2] Arcane Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

[Ronark]

I'd be more hesitant to use SN or NT filler spells, for the sole reason where you do sometimes have to try to get rid of all your mana- This is even more true when you have any of the 4 mana-regen Legendaries (heaven forbid you have more than 2!). I can foresee TF coming into play more with high end 920+ gear, where you have the secondary stats to support it; but I doubt it'll scale well enough this tier to surpass OP.

[azzastar]

What ilvl are the trinket sims on the first page, does anyone know?

[Xelian]

Am I the only one here for who Charged up sims a lot higher than Resonance or Supernova? I'm not talking about 5k or something. The difference is like 50-60k on a patchwerk sim.

[Venom.dlx]

What ilvl are the trinket sims on the first page, does anyone know?

I think all trinkets are simmed with 900 Ilvl. But i don't know for sure about the arcano crystall.


There was another reply in the arc guide from x1xruex1x:

Updated my guide on the first page. Got some new links (to Nelfy's thread and video). Soon there should be a new trinket comparison sheet out, and when it pops I'll get that added too.

Binkenstein dropped a new trinketlist, you might want to see this http://imgur.com/a/qZyCb" target="_blank

[Kythos]

Regarding Enchants.

is there a ST vs AOE break down?
I have a feeling that mark of the Claw maybe better for burst AOE ( many mechanics in NH) thoughts?

also, Great legendary paired list, thoughts on a AOE version for 4 target priority?

[Tobylicious]

Just wanted to ask what potion sims better, Potion of Prolonged power or Potion of Deadly Grace..?
haven't found any sims or a post about that here on this forum yet for 7.1.5
Thanks!

[Roval]

Just wanted to ask what potion sims better, Potion of Prolonged power or Potion of Deadly Grace..?
haven't found any sims or a post about that here on this forum yet for 7.1.5
Thanks!

Deadly Grace sims better by a small margin, but the sim also uses heroism on pull. I have found in my experience using prolonged power on pulls where heroism is saved for a later phase nets me better numbers. I generally prolong power without heroism and deadly grace with heroism.

[stevocate]

I've been noticing an eyebrow raising amount of top parses with Star Gate trinket. I do not have one but does the spellfire damage on the proc get boosted from Erosion and our 13.5% arcane damage from 54 traits? It could be very much better than most people believe.

[jimmyo]

I've been noticing an eyebrow raising amount of top parses with Star Gate trinket. I do not have one but does the spellfire damage on the proc get boosted from Erosion and our 13.5% arcane damage from 54 traits? It could be very much better than most people believe.

Stargate's placement among the top trinkets available is not the damage proc, but rather the passive Intellect. While Burning Sky and Grimoire will do nearly 4% of your total damage, Stargate does just over 2% of your damage (and cleaves). In return, you get almost 65% more Intellect (1879 at Heroic) than the haste/crit offered by Burning Sky/Grimoire (1137). This creates a trinket that scales exceptionally well with ilevel, much like Stat sticks.

Once you reach around 895, Stargate's damage component is roughly equivalent to the same amount of versatility you would get on a stat stick of that level. If you treat the damage as effectively versatility, you can compare Stargate to a Versatility Brinewater Slime of similar ilevels. However, this only works when you start reaching the 895 and higher marks.

Sims confirm this too: http://i.imgur.com/YC1iQaW.png" target="_blank.

As you will see, Stargate starts off much weaker than comparable trinkets. However, it catches up to the Vers, Mastery, and Crit Stat Sticks around the heroic ilevel mark. It also catches up with Metronome for Arcane, without the penalty of high mana consumption.

[Vaccine]

Is Simcraft simming the 4 piece to an acceptable level in the most recent build? Just seems to tell me to ditch it for slightly higher ilvl still.

[Causese]

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[Daidai]

I also recognized weird results with the kilt.
On my calcs SC is not using evocation ....

Described it here
https://www.altered-time.com/forum/view ... f=3&t=3900" target="_blank

[Enimonemo]

What are considered the BiS legendaries after Kilt+Shard? According to sims, Kilt+KJ comes in second, but Kilt+Prydaz comes in as a close 3rd on top of having a defensive shield. Opinions?
Also, what's the generic stance on Gravity Spiral?

[Causese]

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[Enimonemo]

So I simmed my items and came up with the following results:



Apparently, Prydaz alongside Kilt results the highest DPS alongside the extra defense Prydaz provides.

Edit: I've added a sim that uses only the 2 piece-set with Prydaz and Kilt, which resulted in even higher DPS. I am quite unconvinced that I should give up my 4-set-bonus though.

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mage="Kilt_Prydaz" origin="https://eu.api.battle.net/wow/character/draenor/enimonemo/advanced" thumbnail="http://eu.battle.net/static-render/eu/draenor/63/102779455-avatar.jpg" level=110 race=blood_elf role=spell position=back professions=herbalism=800/mining=800 talents=http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/tool/talent-calculator#ea!1111020 artifact=4:0:0:0:0:72:3:73:1:74:3:75:3:77:3:78:1:79:3:80:1:81:3:82:3:83:3:84:3:86:1:87:1:290:1:1169:1:1339:1:1371:20 spec=arcane # This default action priority list is automatically created based on your character. # It is a attempt to provide you with a action list that is both simple and practicable, # while resulting in a meaningful and good simulation. It may not result in the absolutely highest possible dps. # Feel free to edit, adapt and improve it to your own needs. # SimulationCraft is always looking for updates and improvements to the default action lists. # Executed before combat begins. 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[Ianarion]

Doesn't the sim APL still not understand how to use two evocates and the evocation cooldown reduction?

[maynord]

Serious question, but how many people have actually tried some of the less common top 10 talent combos? I just realised that as long as you take RoP, Erosion, and OP, you can basically choose freely between anything in the 15/60 talent rows. I think I'm going to start experimenting with WoP/Arf and SN in Heroic NH farm runs just to see if it makes the playstyle any more fun.

[Frosted]

Updated OP sections for 7.2 except for weights/Trinkets.

[Ianarion]

Updated OP sections for 7.2 except for weights/Trinkets.

Are you sure about Gravity Spiral being that low? That seems to contradict my experience in game. I could definitely be wrong though. Seems like it would be quite valuable on low but not very low duration encounters.

[maynord]

Kilt sims about 3% higher in damage than Gravity Spiral, I feel it's a negligble difference and shows how balanced Arcane legendaries are. Moreover, the variance of "worse" legendaries still allows for high enough numbers. Truthfully, nothing really compares to Kilt because it is totally independent of RNG (Rhonin's, Cord) or specific fight lengths (Exodar, GS to an extent), so it will also be ahead.

Ultimately you should choose the two legendaries which are the most functional for you. Personally I'm going to continue using Kilt on most fights, Shard for ST fights where I can actually line up TW with two-three APs (e.g. Ursoc, Dragons, Krosus, Trilliax, Chronomatic), Rhonin's for long ST fights without too much movement (Augur-style fights), Gravity Spiral for everything else, especially fights where I need to target swap (e.g. Cenarius, Ilgynoth, Botanist). Normally I end up using GS or Shard, simply because there is little to no RNG involved. Rhonin's is great when it's good, but we have enough RNG in our kit already.

If I had Cord of Infinity though, I would use it quite frequently especially on fights with some cleave or AOE, and would use it all the time in M+.